![]() Sorry, it's selfish, and not idealistic at all, but just being pragmatic. with limited time, it's just more useful for me to use Google Maps. I'm happy it exists, but it's just not something I care enough to regularly contribute to. I've checked in on it (and contributed here and there, once in a great while) since its founding nearly 20 years ago, but I've never found it to have good enough data for day-to-day use, nor easy enough editing features to be worth the hassle. I'm sorry, I get that OSM is a great project, but it's just not something worth my time to try to fix. The GMap editor is just much more polished and doesn't require me to go out of my way to make a trivial edit - as you'd expect from a company with nearly infinite resources. I don't think I can stand this UI, sorry.Īnd when I tried to edit actual vector features on the web-based OSM editor (both of them, or whatever the difference is) it was a much more annoying experience than doing the same thing (like editing a road) on Google Maps. I poked around for a few min and then gave up.Įvery Door didn't show me anything at all until I manually downloaded the data, then had a pretty bad UI for editing the operating hours, not even localized to my time locales (12hr time). I couldn't figure out how to edit a specific business that wasn't a current quest. StreetComplete seems to be gamified and only wants to show me "quests". OK, on your suggestion, I just tried both of these apps. My guess is that Apple et al have contracts which indemnify them and if he is the ultimate source, he's already signed away any right to damages for information he provided (and maybe information he didn't). No, the publisher doesn't get to be off the hook because "it's hard to be accurate." Even if successful, if these systems are not well-designed that information might be overwritten with the next update from whatever source originally offered up the false information. And, if the onus is not on those businesses to not publish false information, even after all that, they could just ignore him. It is super easy to say "Well, business owners have mechanisms to correct false information", but this requires the business owner to regularly check not just Apple Maps, but every such service (which he might not have even heard of), find out the process to correct the information on each service that has it wrong, possibly prove to these services that he is who he says he is and is also the owner of the business (potentially subjecting himself to phishing attacks). For whatever it's worth wikipedia says it gets information "provided by approximately twenty companies, including, Foursquare, TripAdvisor, and Yelp" It's super easy to say "well these companies have lots of money and so should be able to be 100% accurate", but the scale of these services does not actually make that true, especially when there are systems that allow business owners to just report the correct information directly. For google's 200 million PoIs you obviously require 8000 full time employees which for them would be a 6% increase in their work force. That would be (according to wikipedia) a 1% increase in the number of employees for the entire company, just for information that could easily be kept more accurate by the business owner. Assuming a 40 hours per week, that would require 2000+ people full time employees doing nothing but calling to constantly verify business information. Let's guesstimate 5 minutes per verification and now you have 250 million minutes of work just to validate this information once. Let's be conservative and say apple is at 50 million. In terms of "company with lots of money should be able to manually verify every entry", I can't find info on Apple Maps, but at a general approximation of scale google talks about 200 million businesses and points of interest, yelp alone has 5 million and operates in a relatively small area. This sounds very much like "I want to be automatically included in these map services, but I don't want to do any work to ensure accuracy". Apple provides methods in the maps UI to report corrections, and another thread says there's a business connections site that you can use to ensure correct information manually. Apple got that information from somewhere, and wherever they got it from presumably got it from the store in the first place. Alternatively, the company should have ensured that wherever (or whoever) they were providing data for were providing accurate information. ![]()
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